This little above mentioned clause in the elders book is when the walls started crumbling down for me. I started to wake up- I started to see just what was going on----> and I am ever so thankful to be OUT of the CULT that JW's are.
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Publisher death nail.
by Chook ini have done this exactly as quoted more than once.
i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.
then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.
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Joseph and his generation
by maninthemiddle inso the wt used ex 1:6 to define a generation from the very beginning.
then in the this september broadcast the same person (splain) who spent 20 min with charts to explain a generation, makes a point that joseph and his brothers were very close in age?
(min 4:29).
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It's that he doesn't realize what it means for something he was saying himself in front of the camera not even a year ago that make it interesting.
I caught that same line and wondered if he realizes how he is contradicting the overlapping generations argument... Did you also notice how he was just rambling? Nothing made sense! (Not that it ever does) but this one was very peculiar...
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If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?
by Iamallcool inrate it from 1 to 10. thanks!
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I was seriously at ZERO for a long while. When I heard of the new changes to the meetings- I must admit, I was so excited! I was thinking- YAHOOOOO changes are being made for the better. Well... after a few weeks of the new meeting... urghhhhhh I felt worse than before. ZERO ZERO ZERO
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Warning: Watchtower computer dept. registers accounts on Ex-JW sites, coerces people to divulge their personal details
by WTS Archive inwe had a bad experience with watchtower trying to infiltrate our forums.
let this story be a warning for all you guys here.
if you value your privacy do not ever send your real contact details to anyone, even if you trust them (because their accounts could be hacked or accessed by their relatives - and yes, this happened to people i know several times already).
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It's just another example of Theocratic Warfare; where it's quite ok to deceive and lie to people for the sake of Kingdom advancement. And its very sad that even here, we need to be careful. But for the sake of our freeness of speech, it would be wisest course to always keep our personal details out the posts we make
Agree with you NoZombie! Unfortunately- you can't really trust anyone unless you know them (in person)
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Warning: Watchtower computer dept. registers accounts on Ex-JW sites, coerces people to divulge their personal details
by WTS Archive inwe had a bad experience with watchtower trying to infiltrate our forums.
let this story be a warning for all you guys here.
if you value your privacy do not ever send your real contact details to anyone, even if you trust them (because their accounts could be hacked or accessed by their relatives - and yes, this happened to people i know several times already).
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To be fair, let's think about how much the Governing Body encourages members to spy on one another. There's been many a magazine article with photos showing us just how its done! It is totally plausible that they COULD very well know about this- but turn a blind eye and feign ignorance or (as they typically do) use out right denial.
They seem extremely uptight towards the so called Apostate community as of late... hmmmm I wonder why?
Although I do believe in the "lone wolf" theory- I would never put it past this organization to use whatever it's got or takes to try to eliminate threats to themselves. They are the BEASTS they portray in their literature.
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Today's Text - Sacrifice To God!
by Divergent insunday, august 14. if she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons.—lev.
12:8.. according to the mosaic law, the israelites were to offer specific sacrifices.
(lev.
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Great breakdown of the text- I really appreciated all the points you brought out! ;)
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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Coldsteel: Pareidolia---- in essence, the ability to see faces in objects. Our brains are hard wired for facial recognition. I can look at any pattern and see faces, animals, ugly or pretty- depending on the patterns and depending on my frame of mind at the time. If I am telling myself that I am looking for "faces and or demons" in a window or picture of an old window... well, by golly- I will see just that. Our minds are fascinating and have incredible capabilities! Whether or not demons actually exist- is irrelevant when the MIND can make them and anything else REAL to you. With that being said, some people say NO there is nothing supernatural- they have told themselves it is not possible or plausible. Others are open to it- and SEE more and believe more. Who really is right?
Hmmmmm.... ;)
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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I agree that the stories were rampant back in the day. In the mid to late 70's everyone seemed to be on a demon-kick (Not just the Witnesses, everyone---> now that could be due to Hollywoods obsession with it at the time) We all know that the 70's put out some of the freakiest scariest pieces art, movie, theater etc. I still cringe to think I had to grow up in such a time... thank god the 80's rolled around. ;) My point is: YES, I heard all the JW urban legends and we were scared to death of demons. I think so much so that we may have THOUGHT something or someone was attacking us when, in AWAKE retrospect, I actually think it was paranoia. Our minds were constantly being conditioned of the dangers of demons, smurfs (lol) and anything that the GB didn't want you to look at, but knew YOU WOULD. Good old reverse psychology. That way- you became more and more dependent on THEM.
Whether or not demons are or are not real is not something I even dwell on these days! I am too busy enjoying being free from the micro-management of the WT Corporation.
The most SCARIEST pictures and ideas were planted in my head from the very material that was supposed to make me feel safe and secure... Go figure?
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JW as a secret society - a weak link in the Information Age.
by slimboyfat inin the late 1990s there was magazine article that asked the question, are jws a secret society?
obviously they said no, because they claim to be transparent to outsiders and new members.
but they really are not transparent at all.
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The latest broadcast touches on "how they (the GB) make decisions" hosted by David Splane... Keep splaning davey boy, keep splaning... lol Maybe he needs that chalkboard pointer/stick to make his point clear?
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Elaine from the bunker video
by jookbeard indoes anyone know anything about the luscious elaine?
is she a professional actress or just a member of the r&f recruited to be a member of the cast of this video?
the pout,olive skin stunning looks make my heart miss a beat every time i see this beauty.
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Well at least they were thinking of the brothers when choosing the parts. Thank goodness for that huh? lol Sisters didn't get left out either with that hottie who played the modern day Job. HunK-O-licious.
On a serious note- I would love to know more about the JW's who played these parts. You know there's way more than meets the eye.